I own a PSP

[satori]

tell me about it. The comments were that there were no good games on the PSP and that the DS was way better. I went to gamespot and checked the average scores and the DS got 6.65 out of 10 and the PSP got 7.28
Now while I might consider getting a DS with the upcoming price drop of the DS I'm certainly not going to be joining any DS forums... those people are fanatical.

[Malchik]

The DS is overall doing much better then the PSP. Its over seas that really dig Nintendo for all its worth. I plan of getting a slim DS when the price drops. Can't wait  

[(Insert clever username)]

I'm being quite honest when I say the PSP might be one of the worst purchases I've made in the past few years.  It would be THE worst if not for Lumines.

I've been playing my DS more and more lately, and it's because stuff's coming out for it you can't get anywhere else.  Plus the load times on some of the PSP games just got absolutely insane.  I'm also finding it hard to see a game I actually want to play on the PSP (besides Lumines).  

I am tempted to give PoPoLoCrois a shot, though.  I hear it's not all bad.

But yeah, the DS is coming out with strong titles consistently now.  With the release of the DS lite, it only stands to get better for Nintendo in the handheld department.  Sony is squandering a huge opportunity to release some HUGE games.  I mean come on, give PSP owners some original properties, or at least GOOD versions of existing ones.  Maybe with the seeming demise of the UMD movie format, more attention will be paid to games.

[Zn]

I don't get it how people can stare at those tiny screens for hours, it feels so .. restrictive.

[satori]

The DS is overall doing much better then the PSP. Its over seas that really dig Nintendo for all its worth. I plan of getting a slim DS when the price drops. Can't wait  

yeah, I guess it makes sense that this is the case. Nintendo's core audience is younger and these devices seem to sell better to younger audiences.

I'm being quite honest when I say the PSP might be one of the worst purchases I've made in the past few years.  It would be THE worst if not for Lumines.

Lumines got some solid reviews

I've been playing my DS more and more lately, and it's because stuff's coming out for it you can't get anywhere else.  Plus the load times on some of the PSP games just got absolutely insane.  I'm also finding it hard to see a game I actually want to play on the PSP (besides Lumines).  

it's not for want of good games... check the reviews on Gamespot, there's lots coming out right now for the PSP that are thought of as good games:

http://www.gamespot.com/reviews.html?type=reviews&platform=1024&mode=all&sort=post_date&dlx_type=all

I am tempted to give PoPoLoCrois a shot, though.  I hear it's not all bad.

it got a pretty good review, still judging by the types of games that you are interested in I can see why a DS would be more your flavour of choice. The analog stick on the PSP really makes the unit for me because it makes FPS games quite enjoyable.

But yeah, the DS is coming out with strong titles consistently now.  

Average review scores for games released this year for DS is 5.82 with 31 games, average score for PSP is 7.24 with 38 games. I think perhaps a more apt statement is that DS is consistently coming out with games that you like, which is completely valid. You should base your purchases on your interests and not necessarily those of the critics. Personally I usually agree with Gamespot scoring.

Here's Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time that scored 8.9


and here's Syphon Filter that scored an 8.8 on the PSP


Personally I'd rather play Syphon Filter

With the release of the DS lite, it only stands to get better for Nintendo in the handheld department.

A good thing really. Nintendo got the asses handed to them on the Gamecube so it's nice to hear from you that their sales are up.

Sony is squandering a huge opportunity to release some HUGE games.  I mean come on, give PSP owners some original properties, or at least GOOD versions of existing ones.  Maybe with the seeming demise of the UMD movie format, more attention will be paid to games.

I doubt UMD movies going away will make much difference in game quality, it's seperate divisions producing each. Personally I like the movies that I have... I picked up Akira, Hellboy, Extrordinary League of Gentlemen and Creature Comforts all for $10 each. too bad they didn't sell at this price at the start of their career.
Still, I have upwards of 40 movies that I've ripped for my PSP so I'm not going to run out anytime soon.

I think this all comes down to 'for each their own'. It doesn't matter what the critics say if you personally don't like the games. In my case I love every game that I've bought for my PSP, but then I think I hit their target market, and that they're making games with people like me in mind. I think it also helps that I don't buy a game unless it got about a 7.3 or above. There's loads of good games out there for PSP people.

[satori]

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[(Insert clever username)]

I guess that is what really separates me from everyone else.  I don't want to play a psp title that is inherently inferior to it's console counterpart.  I'm for more original content, and Nintendo DS does that better, in my opinion.  And maybe not so much original content, just varied gameplay.  The PSP is hindered with it's control setup.  I couldn't even play Katamari on it, and that's one of the titles I had looked forward to.

There are a lot of reasons that I prefer my DS right now over my PSP, and you're right, there's really nothing out for PSP that targets what I want in a handheld game.  I think Sony's trying too hard to make it a portable console, and the system itself prevents that.



Make me a PSP that will load games quickly, and give me a REAL metal gear game, and then we'll be talking.

[satori]

I am considering picking up a DS when the price drops so I'll be able to speak more intelligently when I play it. From what I've seen of my friends devices the games are simply not mature enough for me for the most part. From what I understand Nintendo is about to change all that with the upcoming releases of "thinking games" what ever that means. I'm looking forward to this as it might seal the deal for me. I do have to say that I liked the idea of a Resident evil game, but the graphics are really inferior to the PSP on that particular game although I'm sure that's not the case for all games. SOCOM for the PSP is a great example of inferior graphics, but thankfully that is the exception. Have you tried Syphon Filter? Personally I'm looking forward to Field Commander. The idea that they can put a military RTS into a handheld would of been enough to sell me. It's getting some pretty great reviews at this point, but I'm holding on to see Gamespots take on it when it's more widely available.

[(Insert clever username)]

See, that's where I think your argument is flawed.  Nintendo has gotten the reputation of being a kiddie developer, and that's fine.  Most of their first party games ARE appropriate for all ages.  But man I couldn't put down Advance Wars, or Mario Kart DS.  and I know Animal Crossing is one of those love it or hate it titles, but I think it works well.  In fact I know way more adults who play it daily than children.

I bit on Nintendogs as well.  I had fun with it for a while too, but it ended up getting kind of old.

Sure, a lot of psp titles have mature themes that warrant them being played by mature gamers, but that doesn't make Nintendo's titles just for children.

I guess another reason I prefer DS over PSP right now is the fact that I can play most of my DS titles in short bursts of 10-15 minutes.  That's why I like Lumines so much too.  I can put it in, play a quick game, and be on about my way.

I'll agree that the titles like the maddens, the resident evils, and the graphically intensive console ports should go to the PSP.  I think that's why you're finding a lot of low DS scores - the machine just isn't powerful enough for those games.  I think Nintendo needs to just focus on making original, fun, quirky titles and leave the third party ports to other systems.

However, this is kind of a problem for me as well.  I purchaed X-men legends 2 for my psp, one because it was cheap, and 2 because i liked the first game.  Sometimes the load times are just flat out unbearable.  It's like sony designed this awesome ass system with lots of potential, the most beautiful screen i've ever seen on a handheld, and the capability to reproduce beautiful graphics, but didn't design the system with a large enough cache to avoid consistent loading issues.

You know, thinking about it, that's my main gripe about the psp.  If these games didn't have such horrible loading times, i'd probably like more of them.

[satori]

See, that's where I think your argument is flawed.

ahh yes, my opinion about what is best for me as a gamer is flawed... that makes no sense... I like what I like

Nintendo has gotten the reputation of being a kiddie developer, and that's fine.  Most of their first party games ARE appropriate for all ages.  But man I couldn't put down Advance Wars, or Mario Kart DS.  and I know Animal Crossing is one of those love it or hate it titles, but I think it works well.  In fact I know way more adults who play it daily than children.

could that be because you know more adults than children?  There are all these new brain games that are coming out for the DS, which is part of the reason that I'm interested in getting one when the price drops.

Sure, a lot of psp titles have mature themes that warrant them being played by mature gamers, but that doesn't make Nintendo's titles just for children.

I never said it did, one thing does not mean the other, both units could have a mix bag, or both could be mature, but in this case PSP has more mature titles. What I said about nintendo games was that they weren't mature titles, that doesn't mean that they have to be for kids, it just means that they're not for me. I like a lot of the Pixar films, and they are not mature movies, I still enjoy them.  Again, one thing is not the other.

I guess another reason I prefer DS over PSP right now is the fact that I can play most of my DS titles in short bursts of 10-15 minutes.  That's why I like Lumines so much too.  I can put it in, play a quick game, and be on about my way.

you're right, that is pretty cool

I'll agree that the titles like the maddens, the resident evils, and the graphically intensive console ports should go to the PSP.  I think that's why you're finding a lot of low DS scores - the machine just isn't powerful enough for those games.  I think Nintendo needs to just focus on making original, fun, quirky titles and leave the third party ports to other systems.

However, this is kind of a problem for me as well.  I purchaed X-men legends 2 for my psp, one because it was cheap, and 2 because i liked the first game.  Sometimes the load times are just flat out unbearable.  It's like sony designed this awesome ass system with lots of potential, the most beautiful screen i've ever seen on a handheld, and the capability to reproduce beautiful graphics, but didn't design the system with a large enough cache to avoid consistent loading issues.

I'm a PC gamer and the PSP gives me the closest experience to that. Heck they even have a great RTS called field commander that is about to come out. DS just doesn't offer those sorts of games. No question that DS is good at what it does, but PSP is also good at what it does.

You know, thinking about it, that's my main gripe about the psp.  If these games didn't have such horrible loading times, i'd probably like more of them.

I haven't experienced that yet, but I'll check into it. Syphon Filter has a long load time at start up, but it's all good after that.

[Tygrinn]

Get out and buy Daxter, it's awesome. And Konami just announced a Metal Gear SOLID title for the PSP.

[satori]

yeah, Daxter got a 9.1 from Gamespot... it's not normally my sort of game, but what the hell, if it's that good then I'll give it a go... I found it interesting that it unlocks bonus material from another game on the PS2 if you hook the PSP and PS2 up together.

[Mista]

Hello guys, do you know if there an option to disable game autostart on PSP boot, every time I turn my PSP on it's autostarting game in UMD drive.

[satori]

yeah, me too, I just pull the game out before I start it now.

[Mista]

would be great if they're add "autostart disable" in the next firmware